{"id":361,"date":"2013-02-03T07:23:08","date_gmt":"2013-02-03T07:23:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.norn.is\/einar\/?p=361"},"modified":"2017-09-24T11:03:28","modified_gmt":"2017-09-24T11:03:28","slug":"er-hagfraedi-visindi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.norn.is\/einar\/2013\/02\/03\/er-hagfraedi-visindi\/","title":{"rendered":"Er hagfr\u00e6\u00f0i v\u00edsindi?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\u00dea\u00f0 hefur talsvert veri\u00f0 deilt um gildi hagfr\u00e6\u00f0innar sem \u00e1rei\u00f0anlegra v\u00edsinda, e\u00f0a yfirleitt hvort h\u00fan s\u00e9 v\u00edsindi, \u00fe.e.a.s. samsafn \u00e1rei\u00f0anlegrar \u00feekkingar og \u00e1rei\u00f0anlegra a\u00f0fer\u00f0a til a\u00f0 komast a\u00f0 einhverjum sannleika. \u00a0\u00deetta er skiljanlegt \u00ed lj\u00f3si \u00feess a\u00f0 n\u00e1nast allir hagfr\u00e6\u00f0ingar brug\u00f0ust gersamlega \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 sj\u00e1 fyrir einhverjar hrikalegustu efnahagshamfarir sem hafa duni\u00f0 yfir \u00cdsland og talsver\u00f0an hluta heimsins.<\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u00de\u00f3r\u00f3lfur Matth\u00edasson var spur\u00f0ur a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed \u00ed\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.ruv.is\/spegillinn\/Spegillinn_31052012.mp3\">Spegli R\u00daV \u00ed fyrra<\/a>\u00a0(byrjar \u00e1 18:03) hvort hagfr\u00e6\u00f0i v\u00e6ri v\u00edsindi, e\u00f0a yfirleitt til einhvers gagns. \u00a0Au\u00f0vita\u00f0 m\u00e1 vera a\u00f0 a\u00f0rir hef\u00f0u geta\u00f0 svara\u00f0 \u00feessu betur, en a\u00f0 d\u00e6ma af \u00fev\u00ed sem \u00de\u00f3r\u00f3lfur haf\u00f0i a\u00f0 segja s\u00fdnist m\u00e9r svari\u00f0 vera nei.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u00c9g er reyndar nokku\u00f0 sannf\u00e6r\u00f0ur um a\u00f0 hagfr\u00e6\u00f0i s\u00e9 ekki eint\u00f3m \u00fev\u00e6la e\u00f0a bara illa grunda\u00f0ar p\u00f3lit\u00edskar sko\u00f0anir. \u00a0En \u00fev\u00ed er ekki a\u00f0 leyna a\u00f0 ansi margir hagfr\u00e6\u00f0ingar hafa tala\u00f0 t\u00f3ma vitleysu, og \u00a0margir \u00feeirra eru enn \u00e1 fullyr\u00f0ingafyller\u00edi og ekki a\u00f0 sj\u00e1 a\u00f0 \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed ver\u00f0i nokkurt slot. \u00a0\u00deessar endalausu sta\u00f0h\u00e6fingar hagfr\u00e6\u00f0inga um hluti sem \u00feeir hafa margir greinilega ekkert vit \u00e1 v\u00e6ru ekki ska\u00f0legri en \u00fea\u00f0 sem sp\u00e1konur segja f\u00f3lki um mikla peninga, utanlandsfer\u00f0ir og h\u00e1vaxna d\u00f6kkh\u00e6r\u00f0a karlmenn (e\u00f0a hva\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 n\u00fa er sem \u00a0t\u00ed\u00f0kast um \u00feessar mundir) ef ekki vildi svo illa til a\u00f0 fj\u00f6lmi\u00f0lar \u00e6tu einl\u00e6gt upp eftir \u00feeim kristalsk\u00falur\u00f6vli\u00f0.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>N\u00fdlegt og \u00e1takanlegt d\u00e6mi um \u00feetta er\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.heimur.is\/?ew_news_onlyarea&amp;ew_news_onlyposition=4&amp;cat_id=28418&amp;ew_4_a_id=397137\">vi\u00f0tal vi\u00f0 \u00der\u00e1in Eggertsson<\/a>, pr\u00f3fessor \u00ed hagfr\u00e6\u00f0i, sem \u201ehefur vaki\u00f0 mikla athygli\u201c sem aftur leiddi til \u00feess a\u00f0 eigendur bla\u00f0sins Frj\u00e1lsrar Verslunar \u00e1kv\u00e1\u00f0u a\u00f0 birta \u00fea\u00f0 \u00ed heild \u00e1 netinu. \u00a0H\u00e9r segir vi\u00f0m\u00e6landinn \u00fdmis alm\u00e6lt t\u00ed\u00f0indi og rabbar um hva\u00f0 g\u00e6ti ef til vill hugsanlega m\u00f6gulega kannski gerst, \u00fe\u00f3tt \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 reyndar \u00f3m\u00f6gulegt a\u00f0 vita hva\u00f0 muni gerast. \u00a0\u00dea\u00f0 sem er athyglisvert h\u00e9r er \u00fev\u00ed ekki neitt af \u00fev\u00ed sem \u00der\u00e1\u00ednn segir, heldur hitt a\u00f0 vi\u00f0tali\u00f0 skuli tali\u00f0 athyglisvert. \u00a0En, kannski voru \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0allega \u201eAtlagan a\u00f0 kv\u00f3takerfinu\u201c og \u201eAtlagan a\u00f0 stj\u00f3rnarskr\u00e1nni\u201c sem eigendur bla\u00f0sins vildu koma \u00e1 framf\u00e6ri?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u00c9g \u00e6tla ekki a\u00f0 fjalla um \u00fea\u00f0 sem \u00der\u00e1inn segir \u00ed \u00feessu vi\u00f0tali, \u00fev\u00ed \u00fea\u00f0 er n\u00f3g a\u00f0 l\u00e1ta hann sj\u00e1lfan tala til a\u00f0 sj\u00e1 a\u00f0 h\u00e9r eru ekki \u00e1 fer\u00f0inni fr\u00e6\u00f0i, heldur vangaveltur manns sem \u00f3m\u00f6gulegt er a\u00f0 sj\u00e1 a\u00f0 byggi \u00e1 \u00f6\u00f0ru en \u00fev\u00ed sem umr\u00e6\u00f0urnar \u00ed heitapottinum \u00ed Laugardalslauginni gera a\u00f0 \u00f6llu j\u00f6fnu. \u00a0\u00c9g set hins vegar nokkrar athugasemdir m\u00ednar \u00ed hornklofa.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>Mikil vandi blasir vi\u00f0 \u00feeim sem um \u00feessar mundir bera \u00e1byrg\u00f0 \u00e1 stj\u00f3rn efnahagsm\u00e1la. M\u00f6rg vestr\u00e6n r\u00edki eru st\u00f3rskuldug, me\u00f0al annars vegna bankahruns, og jafnframt hrj\u00e1ir \u00feau kreppa og miki\u00f0 atvinnuleysi. Hva\u00f0 er til r\u00e1\u00f0a? Er br\u00fdnast a\u00f0 jafna r\u00edkisfj\u00e1rm\u00e1lin me\u00f0 skattah\u00e6kkunum og ni\u00f0urskur\u00f0i r\u00edkis\u00fatgjalda og grei\u00f0a ni\u00f0ur skuldirnar e\u00f0a er fars\u00e6last a\u00f0 vinna fyrst bug \u00e1 atvinnuleysinu me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 auka r\u00edkis\u00fatgj\u00f6ldin og l\u00e6kka skatta \u2013 og \u00fear me\u00f0 d\u00fdpka skuldirnar?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>[Og svo fylgja fleiri spurningar sem vi\u00f0 spyrjum okkur \u00f6ll sem lesum fj\u00f6lmi\u00f0la, en engin sv\u00f6r]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\u00cd Bandar\u00edkjunum var n\u00fdlega gefin \u00fat sk\u00fdrsla sem \u00d6ryggisr\u00e1\u00f0 r\u00edkisins (National Intelligence Council) vann a\u00f0 \u00ed fj\u00f6gur \u00e1r. \u00cd sk\u00fdrslunni eru metnar horfurnar \u00ed heiminum n\u00e6stu 18-20 \u00e1r me\u00f0 \u00e1herslu \u00e1 efnahagsm\u00e1l og st\u00f6\u00f0u Bandar\u00edkjanna. \u00dear segir a\u00f0 mikilv\u00e6gasta breytingin n\u00e6stu tvo \u00e1ratugina ver\u00f0i upprisa voldugrar millist\u00e9ttar \u00e1 heimsv\u00edsu \u2013 v\u00e6ntanlegir neytendur me\u00f0 \u00feokkalega menntun og tekjur.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>[Byggja hagfr\u00e6\u00f0ingar sp\u00e1r s\u00ednar \u00e1 svona \u201eg\u00f6gnum\u201c?]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\u00c9g \u00fatiloka ekki a\u00f0 Bandar\u00edkin, K\u00edna og \u00de\u00fdskaland eigi eftir a\u00f0 lei\u00f0a uppsveiflu \u00e1 n\u00e6stu \u00e1rum en margt getur breytt \u00feeirri sp\u00e1. Mannkynssagan er skrifu\u00f0 eftir\u00e1 en ekki fyrirfram.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>[Kjarni m\u00e1lsins, \u00feetta me\u00f0 mannkynss\u00f6guskrifin. \u00der\u00e1inn er hei\u00f0arlegur a\u00f0 vi\u00f0urkenna a\u00f0 hann viti ekkert um \u00fer\u00f3un \u00feessara m\u00e1la. \u00a0Hins vegar veltir ma\u00f0ur fyrir s\u00e9r af hverju forsvarsmenn FV t\u00f6ldu \u00feetta allt svo athyglisvert \u2026]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\u00c9g \u00e1 von \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 eftirspurn eftir h\u00e1sk\u00f3lamenntu\u00f0u f\u00f3lki ver\u00f0i mikil \u00e1 n\u00e6stu \u00e1ratugum. Vi\u00f0 erum st\u00f6dd \u00ed fyrsta \u00e1fanga r\u00f3tt\u00e6krar byltingar \u00ed uppl\u00fdsingat\u00e6kni, l\u00edft\u00e6kni og \u00e1 fleiri svi\u00f0um sem skapar mikla \u00fe\u00f6rf fyrir h\u00e1sk\u00f3lamennta\u00f0 f\u00f3lk. [\u2026] \u00ddmislegt bendir til a\u00f0 \u00cdslendingar hafi vanr\u00e6kt verk- og t\u00e6knimenntun.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>[Verulega dj\u00fap greining \u2026]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>Erik Brynjolfsson, pr\u00f3fessor \u00ed MIT, segir \u00ed n\u00fdlegri grein a\u00f0 \u2026<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>Margir hagfr\u00e6\u00f0ingar eru andsn\u00fanir \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 r\u00edki\u00f0 bjargi einkab\u00f6nkum \u00ed sta\u00f0 \u00feess a\u00f0 l\u00e1ta eigendur bankanna taka skellinn og bera \u00e1byrg\u00f0 ger\u00f0a sinna. Til d\u00e6mis var Mervyn King, yfirma\u00f0ur Englandsbanka, andsn\u00fainn bj\u00f6rgunara\u00f0ger\u00f0um \u00feegar kreppan 2007-8 rei\u00f0 yfir, en hann vir\u00f0ist s\u00ed\u00f0an hafa skipt um sko\u00f0un.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\u00c9g las n\u00fdlega grein \u00fear sem h\u00f6fundurinn h\u00e9lt \u00fev\u00ed fram a\u00f0 fj\u00f3rar fj\u00e1rm\u00e1lastofnanir \u00ed Bandar\u00edkjunum hef\u00f0u n\u00e1\u00f0 \u00feeirri st\u00e6r\u00f0 a\u00f0 hrun \u00feeirra v\u00e6ri \u00f3gnun vi\u00f0 \u00fej\u00f3\u00f0arb\u00faskapinn en jafnframt v\u00e6ru \u00feessir bankar svo st\u00f3rir \u00ed sni\u00f0um a\u00f0 r\u00edki\u00f0 hef\u00f0i ekki bolmagn til a\u00f0 bjarga \u00feeim. Too big to fail, too big to save, sag\u00f0i h\u00f6fundurinn.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>[Gaman a\u00f0 heyra hva\u00f0 \u00feetta f\u00f3lk heldur. \u00a0En hva\u00f0 me\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0?]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\u00dea\u00f0 \u00fearf a\u00f0 hugsa skipulag fj\u00e1rm\u00e1lastofnana upp \u00e1 n\u00fdtt. Vi\u00f0 h\u00f6fum l\u00e6rt \u00ed fj\u00e1rm\u00e1lakreppunni a\u00f0 eftirlitsstofnanir, b\u00e6\u00f0i h\u00e9r og erlendis, hafa ekki ro\u00f0 vi\u00f0 fj\u00e1rm\u00e1lafyrirt\u00e6kjunum. [\u2026] \u00a0\u00dea\u00f0 er nau\u00f0synlegt a\u00f0 breyta umhverfi bankanna, breyta leikreglunum og \u00fear me\u00f0 hvata fj\u00e1rm\u00e1lamanna og endursko\u00f0a einnig t\u00f6lvut\u00e6knina sem bankar og eftirlitsstofnanir nota.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>[Ekki or\u00f0 um hvernig \u00feurfi a\u00f0 breyta, og ekki a\u00f0 sj\u00e1 a\u00f0 \u00der\u00e1inn hafi minnstu hugmynd um \u00fea\u00f0. \u00a0Hann s\u00fdnir hins vegar a\u00f0 hann hefur lesi\u00f0 helstu fyrirsagnir fj\u00f6lmi\u00f0la s\u00ed\u00f0ustu \u00e1rin, en hann kemur ekki upp um \u00fea\u00f0 hvort hann hafi til d\u00e6mis lesi\u00f0 sj\u00e1lfar greinarnar \u00ed s\u00e6milegum dagbl\u00f6\u00f0um.]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>N\u00fdlega var sagt fr\u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed \u00ed fr\u00e9ttum a\u00f0 l\u00e1n \u00fe\u00fdskra banka til Su\u00f0ur-Evr\u00f3pu v\u00e6ru l\u00edtill hluti af vanda bankanna. \u00de\u00fdsku bankarnir hef\u00f0u l\u00e1na\u00f0 margfalt h\u00e6rri upph\u00e6\u00f0ir til sm\u00ed\u00f0a \u00e1 flutningaskipum en til ja\u00f0arr\u00edkjanna \u00e1 evrusv\u00e6\u00f0inu.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\u00c9g hef \u00f3lj\u00f3sa hugmynd um \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 bankar \u00ed nor\u00f0rinu standi almennt verr en gefi\u00f0 hefur veri\u00f0 \u00ed skyn.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>[\u00c9g hef l\u00edka \u00a0lesi\u00f0 eina og eina fr\u00e9tt, og \u00e9g hef fullt af \u00f3lj\u00f3sum hugmyndum. \u00a0Ef Frj\u00e1lsa verslun skyldi vanta efni \u00ed n\u00e6sta bla\u00f0 \u2026]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\u00c9g svara\u00f0i \u00feessari spurningu h\u00e9r \u00ed Frj\u00e1lsri verslun hausti\u00f0 2011 og sag\u00f0ist ekki eiga von \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 Grikkir h\u00e6ttu \u00ed evrusamstarfinu.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>[Frj\u00e1ls Verslun spur\u00f0i mig a\u00f0 v\u00edsu ekki \u00feessarar spurningar, en \u00e9g sag\u00f0i \u00feeim sem heyra vildu, og \u00fdmsum fleiri, n\u00e1kv\u00e6mlega \u00fea\u00f0 sama. \u00a0\u00c9g er nokku\u00f0 viss um a\u00f0 svar mitt bygg\u00f0i \u00e1 jafntraustum forsendum og svar \u00der\u00e1ins.]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\u00c9g sag\u00f0i \u00e1\u00f0an a\u00f0 engin einf\u00f6ld lausn \u00e1 efnhagsvandanum \u00ed Evr\u00f3pu blasir vi\u00f0 vegna \u00feess a\u00f0 uppsafna\u00f0ar skuldir takmarka \u00farr\u00e6\u00f0in sem koma til greina.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>[\u00dea\u00f0 hef\u00f0i \u00e9g l\u00edka sagt, en \u00e9g hef\u00f0i hins vegar viki\u00f0 m\u00e9r hj\u00e1 a\u00f0 l\u00e1ta hafa svona sj\u00e1lfsag\u00f0a og \u00f3merkilega hluti eftir m\u00e9r \u00ed fj\u00f6lmi\u00f0lum.]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>Ein lausn \u00e1 vanda evrusv\u00e6\u00f0isins, sem \u00e9g hef s\u00e9\u00f0 og sel ekki d\u00fdrar en \u00e9g keypti, \u2026<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>[Til \u00feess eru s\u00e9rfr\u00e6\u00f0ingar, a\u00f0 greina kaffih\u00fasaspjall fr\u00e1 traustri \u00feekkingu, fyrir okkur hin \u2026]<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>Mig dreymir um a\u00f0 \u00cdsland ver\u00f0i eins konar n\u00fdtt Hong Kong me\u00f0 \u00f6fluga samvinnu \u00ed efnahagsm\u00e1lum vi\u00f0 Nor\u00f0url\u00f6ndin og Gr\u00e6nland, vi\u00f0 Evr\u00f3pusambandi\u00f0 og Bandar\u00edkin og vi\u00f0 r\u00edsandi r\u00edki \u00ed \u00feri\u00f0ja heiminum.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>[Draumurinn um \u00cdsland sem mi\u00f0st\u00f6\u00f0 al\u00fej\u00f3\u00f0legra vi\u00f0skipta er ekki n\u00fdr. \u00a0Flestir sem t\u00f6lu\u00f0u um hann fyrir hrun hafa \u00fe\u00f3 fari\u00f0 me\u00f0 hann eins og mannsmor\u00f0 s\u00ed\u00f0an, af skiljanlegum \u00e1st\u00e6\u00f0um.]<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00dea\u00f0 hefur talsvert veri\u00f0 deilt um gildi hagfr\u00e6\u00f0innar sem \u00e1rei\u00f0anlegra v\u00edsinda, e\u00f0a yfirleitt hvort h\u00fan s\u00e9 v\u00edsindi, \u00fe.e.a.s. samsafn \u00e1rei\u00f0anlegrar \u00feekkingar og \u00e1rei\u00f0anlegra a\u00f0fer\u00f0a til a\u00f0 komast a\u00f0 einhverjum sannleika. \u00a0\u00deetta er skiljanlegt \u00ed lj\u00f3si \u00feess a\u00f0 n\u00e1nast allir hagfr\u00e6\u00f0ingar &hellip; 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